{"id":105110,"date":"2017-01-06T13:10:55","date_gmt":"2017-01-06T18:10:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/?p=105110"},"modified":"2017-11-03T14:27:17","modified_gmt":"2017-11-03T18:27:17","slug":"trust-and-respect-propels-bates-team-to-finals-of-world-universities-debate-championships","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/2017\/01\/06\/trust-and-respect-propels-bates-team-to-finals-of-world-universities-debate-championships\/","title":{"rendered":"Trust and respect propels Bates to finals of World Universities Debate Championships"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You hear it whenever world-class teammates \u2014 think Cousy and Russell, Brady and Edelman, even Babilonia and Gardner \u2014 talk about their success. Invariably, they\u2019ll say it\u2019s all about trust and respect.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s exactly how Bates\u2019 latest world-class debate team, of\u00a0Zo\u00eb Seaman-Grant \u201917 and Matt Davis \u201918, talk about a history-making performance that landed them in the final four of the World Universities Debating Championships in The Hague, Netherlands.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have enormous respect for each other intellectually. We trust the other person&#8217;s ideas,\u201d says Davis, a philosophy major from Chicago. \u201cAnd we&#8217;re very good friends.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That friendship, says Seaman-Grant, a women and gender studies major from Charleston, S.C., \u201callows us to put so much faith and trust in each other during debates.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_105112\" style=\"width: 910px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-seaman-grant_davis_0030.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-105112\" class=\"size-large wp-image-105112\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-seaman-grant_davis_0030-900x599.jpg\" alt=\"Debate partners Zo\u00eb Seaman-Grant '17 and Matt Davis '18 made it to the finals of the 2017 World Universities Debating Championships in The Hague, Netherlands.\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-seaman-grant_davis_0030-900x599.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-seaman-grant_davis_0030-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-seaman-grant_davis_0030-200x133.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-seaman-grant_davis_0030.jpg 1624w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-105112\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Debate partners Zo\u00eb Seaman-Grant &#8217;17 and Matt Davis &#8217;18 made it to the finals of the 2017 World Universities Debating Championships in The Hague, Netherlands.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Trust and respect, and of course profound intellectual chops and a dizzying knowledge of world affairs, fueled the pair\u2019s run to the finals of the WUDC, which attracted teams from 379 institutions to The Hague Dec. 28 through Jan. 3.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m so proud of Zo\u00eb and Matt,\u201d said President Clayton Spencer. \u201cThey and their teammates are doing an amazing job, continuing Bates\u2019 stellar tradition of success in international debate.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>About a century after Bates made history by becoming the first U.S. college to debate internationally, Bates is again is looming large in international debate competition.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Joining Bates in the finals, held Tuesday, were teams from Oxford University, Yale University, and the University of Sydney, judged the winner. (Among North American colleges not making the finals: Harvard, Duke, Brown, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, McGill, Clemson, Swarthmore, Berkeley, University of Chicago, Brandeis, and Johns Hopkins.)<\/p>\n<p>The Bates team debated in nine preliminary rounds and five single-elimination rounds. In terms of individual rankings, published after the preliminary rounds, Seaman-Grant was 31st of 756 speakers and Davis 37th.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_105118\" style=\"width: 910px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_043.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-105118\" class=\"wp-image-105118 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_043-900x600.jpg\" alt=\"Zo\u00eb Seaman-Grant '17 is at the lectern, while teammate Matt Davis '18 takes notes, right, during the final round of the 2017 World Universities Debating Championships in The Hague, Netherlands. (Dutch WUDC 2017 \/ Manuel J. Adams)\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_043-900x600.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_043-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_043-200x133.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_043.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-105118\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zo\u00eb Seaman-Grant &#8217;17 is at the lectern, while teammate Matt Davis &#8217;18 takes notes, right, during the final round of the 2017 World Universities Debating Championships in The Hague, Netherlands. (Manuel J. Adams \/ Dutch WUDC 2017)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>They grappled with motions like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u201cThis House believes that post-genocidal regimes should destroy all places of extermination (for example, death camps)\u201d;<\/li>\n<li>\u201cThis House regrets the glamorization of start-up culture that encourages people to start their own companies rather than pursue traditional career paths\u201d; and, in the final round,<\/li>\n<li>\u201cThis House would apply universal jurisdiction to crimes against the environment.\u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Since motions are announced just 15 minutes before a round, debaters must walk in already knowing a lot about a lot.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTogether, we very rarely get a topic we don&#8217;t know anything about,\u201d says Davis. \u201cZo\u00eb knows quite a lot about feminism, race, and economics, while I know a lot about international relations, philosophy, and art.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_105115\" style=\"width: 910px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_011.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-105115\" class=\"wp-image-105115 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_011-900x600.jpg\" alt=\"web-161203-bates-wudc-open_011\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_011-900x600.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_011-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_011-200x133.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_011.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-105115\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zo\u00eb Seaman-Grant &#8217;17 presents the Opposition case during the final round of the 2017 WUDC in The Hague, Netherlands, where the motion was &#8220;This House would apply universal jurisdiction to crimes against the environment.\u201d (Manuel J. Adams \/ Dutch WUDC 2017)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>As their knowledge becomes ideas that become arguments, the pair\u2019s two minds work as one.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe trust the other person&#8217;s ideas and also respect when the other person says we have a bad idea,\u201d explains Davis. \u201cThis also means that we rarely disagree about what sorts of arguments to make or strategies to take, which means that if we mess up it&#8217;s never one person&#8217;s fault alone.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Seaman-Grant and Davis were joined at this year\u2019s WUDC by Brooks Quimby Debate Council teammates Bennett Saltzman \u201918 of Dobbs Ferry, N.Y., and Dylan Dejardins \u201918 of Arlington, Mass.; Tessa Holtzman \u201917 of Las Cruces, N.M., and Cole Limbach \u201918 of Los Altos, Calif.; and Abby Westberry \u201919 of Readfield, Maine, and Katie Ziegler \u201919 of Katonah, N.Y.<\/p>\n<p>About a century after Bates made history by becoming the first U.S. college to debate internationally, the college again is looming large in international debate competition.<\/p>\n<p>And complementing trust and respect, says Director of Debate Jan Hovden, is \u201chard work and dedication.\u00a0We have been working hard to improve our standing on the global level.\u00a0Prior to 2013, Bates had had one team reach the elimination rounds at Worlds.\u00a0Since 2013, we have had six.\u00a0Matt and Zo\u00eb raised the bar \u2014 they\u2019ve solidified Bates as an elite program.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_105113\" style=\"width: 910px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_015.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-105113\" class=\"wp-image-105113 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_015-900x600.jpg\" alt=\"web-161203-bates-wudc-open_015\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_015-900x600.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_015-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_015-200x133.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/web-161203-Bates-WUDC-Open_015.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-105113\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Matt Davis &#8217;18 presents the Opposition case during the final round of the 2017 WUDC in The Hague, Netherlands, where the motion was &#8220;This House would apply universal jurisdiction to crimes against the environment.\u201d (Dutch (Manuel J. Adams \/ Dutch WUDC 2017)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>In 2013, Catherine Djang \u201913 and Ben Smith \u201913 became the first team in 14 years to advance to the 48-team elimination rounds at the WUDC.<\/p>\n<p>Then, in 2015, Taylor Blackburn &#8217;15 and Matt Summers &#8217;15 reached the octofinal round, aka Round of 32. Blackburn, in fact, was on hand in the Netherlands to witness Bates\u2019 latest history-making performance, attending the WUDC as a judge.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cShe and I had a very emotional moment\u201d after Bates won its octofinal debate, said Seaman-Grant. \u201cIt was so wonderful to have her there, seeing Bates do even better than before.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Seaman-Grant, the other highlight was in the sixth of nine preliminary rounds when the topic was in her bailiwick: \u201cThis House believes that the world would be a better place if women from privileged backgrounds turned down any benefits arising from affirmative action programs.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Do debate because you love the activity, rather than because you love the feeling of winning.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cWe debated against teams from Oxford, Harvard, and Stanford,\u201d she says. \u201cAll those teams are incredibly talented, and Matt and I managed to win. It was the first moment at worlds where I felt like we actually had a chance of performing well at the tournament.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s another quality that makes a great competitor: passion for what they do.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEven when Matt and I aren\u2019t winning, we have an incredibly fun time just talking to each other about ideas and watching each other give speeches,\u201d Seaman-Grant says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the best way to do well in debate is probably to do debate because you love the activity, rather than because you love the feeling of winning.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_105111\" style=\"width: 910px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/WUDC-2017-Bates.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-105111\" class=\"wp-image-105111 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/WUDC-2017-Bates-900x600.jpg\" alt=\"The Bates contingent poses for a photo during WUDC 2017, including Taylor Blackburn '15 (back row, third from right) whose team advanced to the octofinal round in 2015. (Tess Holtzman '18)\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/WUDC-2017-Bates-900x600.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/WUDC-2017-Bates-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/WUDC-2017-Bates-200x133.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/files\/2017\/01\/WUDC-2017-Bates.jpg 1620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-105111\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Bates contingent poses for a photo during WUDC 2017, including Taylor Blackburn &#8217;15 (back row, third from right) whose team advanced to the octofinal round in 2015. (Photograph courtesy of Tessa Holtzman &#8217;17)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The World Universities Debating Championships use the British parliamentary format. Topics are announced 15 minutes before the debate begins and the rounds are contested by four teams: two supporting the proposition (Government) and two opposing (Opposition).<\/p>\n<p>The British model differs from American-style parliamentary debate by having two teams on each side of the motion. (Think of a tennis doubles match with two teams on each side of the net.)<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s faster-paced and more strategy-focused, and \u2014 hardly surprising since it\u2019s the preferred format in international debating \u2014 Bates has increasingly focused on British-style debating in recent years.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bates\u2019 latest world-class debate team, of Zo\u00eb Seaman-Grant \u201917 and Matt Davis \u201918, made it to the final four of the World Universities Debating Championships in The Hague, Netherlands.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":104,"featured_media":105114,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_hide_ai_chatbot":false,"_ai_chatbot_style":"","associated_faculty":[],"_Page_Specific_Css":"","_bates_restrict_mod":false,"_table_of_contents_display":false,"_table_of_contents_location":"","_table_of_contents_disableSticky":false,"_is_featured":false,"footnotes":"","_bates_seo_meta_description":"","_bates_seo_block_robots":false,"_bates_seo_sharing_image_id":0,"_bates_seo_sharing_image_twitter_id":0,"_bates_seo_share_title":"","_bates_seo_canonical_overwrite":"","_bates_seo_twitter_template":""},"categories":[4,130],"tags":[1847,11273],"class_list":["post-105110","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-academic-life","category-collaboration","tag-brooks-quimby-debate-council","tag-zoe-seaman-grant"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/105110","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/104"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=105110"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/105110\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":105165,"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/105110\/revisions\/105165"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/105114"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=105110"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=105110"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bates.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=105110"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}